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ChristopherSchlegel
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05/19/2019 3:19 pm

You're welcome for the reply!

Originally Posted by: sameFeatheredI have seen those video you mentioned but I still have questions that bothers me. I'm not going to talk about playing in key with the song for now, I'm just playing with drum beats.[/quote]

Okay, fair enough. But keep in mind that is part of the process. Understanding how to play in key & follow chord changes is one thing. Actually being able to do it in real time with music is a completely different step.

And most of that only happens with repetitious practice of licks & ideas until they are second nature.

Originally Posted by: sameFeatheredBefore you play each notes do you actually already know what it will sound like?[/quote]

That's a great question. Because it really gets to the core of the issue.

Usually, yes. That's because the things I choose to play are things I've already worked out by practicing scale patterns, chord tones & little licks & musical phrases that I've spent years building into a repertiore of licks. A library of things I can play on the spot that I know how they will sound, when they fit in time, and how to play them or adjust them to any given chords that happen in any given order.

This is somewhat like learning a language. You learn a bunch of words & then the grammar of how to form sentences. After you acquire those skills, then you are prepared to have a new conversation with anyone you encounter that also speaks that language.

Now notice that if the person you are talking to has specialized knowledge that you do not (maybe medical or engineering, or something advanced) that you might not be able to keep up with the conversation. Because you have not learned what all those words & concepts mean. But you can learn them!

Now sometimes I don't know exactly what I'm going to play will sound like. But that's a different situation. That might be because I'm experimenting with new scale patterns or new chord progressions.

Essentially, I won't know what it sounds like until I play it if it's a new idea. But once I play it then I get an idea of how it will sound. If I like it, then I remember it & keep playing it in order to really memorize it & make it part of my library, my repertoire. If I don't like it, then I make note of what I didn't like & try to remember to avoid playing it in the future! :)[br]

Originally Posted by: sameFeatheredOr you just play what it feels will be in melody with the previous notes?
[p]That's putting the cart before the horse. If you don't know how something will sound before you play it, then how will you know how you feel about it? Or how will you know if it will get aross the emotion you want to express?

Or you could mean that you "feel" it will fit but you don't KNOW it will fit. That means you are just experimenting as I explained above.

My point is that feeling or emotional reactions have to come after you already know how to play some licks & how they will sound. If you want to express yourself or your emotions, then you already have to know how to play the licks ahead of time that will express any given emotion.

Simply knowing what emotion you want to express does not give you the ability to play notes that will express them.

[quote=sameFeathered]Reason I asked was because I can also hear those cool and tasty melody/licks in my head but not really execute them on fretboard because I don't know where or how to play them?

If you can really hear them, then figure them out. Learn them. It can help to sing them, or record yourself singing them. Pick one lick that you are imagining. Figure out the notes of that lick one note at a time on the guitar until you know where all the notes are. Then spend time repeating those notes until you can play it up to speed like you imagine it. Then move it around the fretboard so you can play it in different positions for different chords & keys.

It sounds like your playing ability is behind your desire & imagination. You need to spend some time woodshedding! You need to spend some time learning & building a repertoire of licks you can play on the spot when you need them.[br][quote=sameFeathered][br]Everytime I improvise it sounded always like blues, mainly becausely I used less notes, played in slow speed and did many string bending? Tried playing faster and with more notes but it sounded terrible...

[p]When you play slower you have more time to think about when to place the notes rhythmically. Playing faster requires more advance planning. You still have to do the same thing: figure out what notes to play & when to play them. But when you play fast, the notes are here & gone in a flash. So you have to have a lot more notes ready to use.

You have to practice longer series of notes to build into long licks. And then you have to practice playing them exactly in time. So that it doesn't sound like aimless flailing around. You have to play them over & again until it sounds like a musical phrase, just faster & with more notes than a slower phrase that has less notes!

Is there some particular guitarist or song that has a style or a solo that you apsire to play? If you can give me a more precise set of goals then I can try to point you to tutorials that will show you how to build those skills.

I hope all that makes sense!


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